“There is no heaven or hell, or spiritual plane, or even eternal void you go to when you die. Just an infinitude of an inevitable conscious experience of self-worlds. Eternal hell could never exist, nor eternal heaven. Nothing ever remains in the same place forever. The experiencing world NEEDS contrast. If the up line means you’re happy and the down line means you’re sad then If you were always going up you wouldn’t have anything to relate to happiness to give it its meaning of happiness. No down line to know what up is or what it means at all, it wouldn’t be happiness anymore. You only know you’re happy because you’ve been sad. Everything is bound to change and it would need to be naturally.

This is the part we often refuse to accept in my opinion. We want imperturbable happiness and can’t get it and wonder why. You can’t stare at just one color and see difference, you need the contrast of other colors. So how could these spirits just self experience in one place (heaven or hell) never moving from that place/ state with no contrast for eternity? Seeing only one color is equal to experiencing void. If you only saw all white (heaven (eternal bliss)) or all black (hell (eternal suffering)) there would be absolutely nothing to see. We lose touch with what it means to be happy because sadness gives happiness its meaning and purpose. Without sadness how could we know the value of happiness? And vice versa. We are truly only able to see and feel by contrast and change.

This belief of heaven and hell is founded on the idea that God created these beings under these circumstances (as if God had no influence or connection to the situation at all… yet he/shes god theirself) and made it up to god’s subjects to decide, putting the decision on Gods subjects, fully knowing of their sinful nature as he created them that way and if they failed which is likely since god made them sinful, they deserve to suffer eternally in hell? What kind of God would we be worshipping then? God would be too intelligent to create sinful beings just to command them to worship and be like his ONLY unattainably divinely perfect son god has EVER had (disowning the rest of existence as gods children) and condemning the beings God made in sinful nature for not acting in divine ways like his son when god theirself created them in that way. That makes absolutely no sense if god is supposed to be all knowing and of the highest intelligence?

I don’t see God as watching from the sidelines in the void saying to itself “ooo lets see what that guy’ll do” at the ready to deliver divine justice. Hah no. I see God tilling the fields personally. I see god blowing the breeze. I see god on the frontlines AS nature. That is why I do not believe in a heaven and hell beyond your present state of experience. So I really can’t get with this idea. Because I’ve felt so much from personal experience that contrasts christianities primal belief that God is seperate from you. God would never create a situation where there is eternal suffering, because God/Nature is the one experiencing it. Who else other than god/nature could actually experience it? There’s noone-nothing else here? So what you truly are is the primordial source of any arisal. The inextinguishable. I believe our experience may blend into the next, moving on from one painting to the next. Not that your experience is now lost in void. There is nothing to be experienced in the void. It’s impossible to not experience anything, even if you’re not conscious of yourself as yourself. But since there are countless self experiencers being born into the world in every moment, it’s unnecessary to worry about losing self experience to the void, for you are self experiencing now aren’t you? And the same self that sits in you sits in all self experiencers.

Self /god/nature is at the center of everything. So when you die I feel the individual you simply dies, or fades from experience. Though you can’t experience void of experience. So inevitably there is evercoming self experience. However it happens though I am not sure. Too many unclear variables from my limited relative perspective. On the premise that happening-consciousness are universal constants,,I feel it’s more like this: Red has its place as a color in the spectrum of colors. Although it shows its unique characteristics to the world it still blends back into the spectrum of everything from before its birth and after its end. Yet between its beginning and end, it colors and lights the world with its particular brush stroke, (your conscious experience-expression). Just because there isn’t red in a painting, doesn’t mean red is dead. It’s just not being experienced right now, but this blue painting is! My main point is you can’t experience non-void, and you can’t experience the same feeling/experience (heaven or hell) forever. The only thing that’s left standing is an inevitability of experience.”